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Abdul Razaq or Shahid Afridi?


#1
So who will you pick if you had the choice? Both are all rounders and can bat and bowl. Both come handy at crucial times. WHO WILL YOU PICK!???

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#2
I guess you are talking about One Days.

No comparison between Abdul Razzaq and Afridi.

Abdul Razzaq is a much better all rounder and he was the backbone of our bowling attack in middle overs. He was consistent with bat too and had contributed several times in increasing run rate exponentially when needed unlike Afridi who is a one hit wonder.
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#3
(12-31-2017, 06:58 AM) rangbaaz Wrote: I guess you are talking about One Days.

No comparison between Abdul Razzaq and Afridi.

Abdul Razzaq is a much better all rounder and he was the backbone of our bowling attack in middle overs. He was consistent with bat too and had contributed several times in increasing run rate exponentially when needed unlike Afridi who is a one hit wonder.


Not necessarily one days because both have played in all formats but yeah most of their games are in one day. I just want to hear members opinion about them.
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#4
On the face value i.e. purely on statistics, Abdul Razaq is a better player no doubt but for true comparison we need to dig deeper which will show who performed well in crunch situations.

Batting
AR test avg: 28.61
SA test avg: 36.51
SA wins here

AR one day avg: 29.70
SA one day avg: 23.57
AR wins here

AR T20 avg: 20.68
SA T20 avg: 18.01
AR wins here

Bowling
AR test avg: 36.94
SA test avg: 35.60
SA wins here

AR one day avg: 31.83
SA one day avg: 34.51
AR wins here

AR T20 avg: 19.75
SA T20 avg: 24.35
AR wins here
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#5
(12-31-2017, 09:19 PM) chacha Wrote: On the face value i.e. purely on statistics, Abdul Razaq is a better player no doubt but for true comparison we need to dig deeper which will show who performed well in crunch situations.

Batting
AR test avg: 28.61
SA test avg: 36.51
SA wins here

AR one day avg: 29.70
SA one day avg: 23.57
AR wins here

AR T20 avg: 20.68
SA T20 avg: 18.01
AR wins here

Bowling
AR test avg: 36.94
SA test avg: 35.60
SA wins here

AR one day avg: 31.83
SA one day avg: 34.51
AR wins here

AR T20 avg: 19.75
SA T20 avg: 24.35
AR wins here


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#6
Afridi, while extremely inconsistent, had delivered a few innings that were as good as they come. Besides that record-breaking century against the team that had just won a World Cup, Afridi's test century against India in India was an innings that proved that he could bat as well as anyone on the team.

There's little doubting that Afridi has been as charismatic as men can get on cricket field, and in Pakistan it really pays to be so, more than any other nation. Disagree all you want, but at the end of the day, sports are merely a source of entertainment...It's a business that relies on audience, and Afridi could get you crowds flocking to the stadiums. People bought tickets just to see him play, and literally walked out after his dismissal. As someone else here mentioned, why would PCB get rid of its biggest cash-cow.

Statistics are not to be trusted. They lack nuance, they never make a complete explanation on their own and they can be made to support pretty much whatever point you’re trying to make.

But they’re still important. They’re the least most important thing, but they’re still important. They are the most tangible aspect of a pursuit that is preoccupied with intangibles. They are as close to 'fact' in sport that we are going to get so we should make use of them…carefully.

First of all, while a 23 avg in one day sounds pathetic today, in the 90s it wasn't so. It's still poor but guys weren't quite scoring 50 a game with 90% strike rate then. Secondly, the other guys that Pak tried to open with were either averaged as low or were excruciatingly slow. The new guys (Imran Nazir) didn't quite impress while the older guys (Aamir Sohail) were terribly out of form. And besides the top order, the middle order had their issues with guys like Salim Malik and Ijaz Ahmed well past their prime. Let's just say that Afridi wasn't their biggest concern as far as Pak's batting troubles went.

Of the 65 players who have taken at least 150 wickets, Shahid Afridi has the 59th ranked bowling average. He has essentially the same bowling average as Steve Waugh and a worse bowling average than Heath Streak, Dilhara Fernando and Chris Cairns. Most of the players with worse bowling averages are brilliant batsmen who turned their arm over as a fifth option.

Afridi conceded 13632 runs for his 395 wickets at an average of 34.51. That’s right, the average batsmen produced at the volume and rate of the venerable Sanath Jayasuriya against Afridi’s bowling through the length of his career.
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#7
عبدلرزاق زیادہ ذمہ دار طریقے سے بیٹنگ کرتا تھا۔ اس کی ہٹنگ بھی آفریدی سے اچھی تھی اور وہ گیم کو آخر تک لے کر جاتا تھا۔ 

عبدلرزاق کی پرفارمنس بھی متواتر تھی یعنی وہ تقریبا ہر میچ میں پرفارم کرتا تھا نا کے آفریدی کی طرح کبھی کبھار۔

وہ ٹیم میں سیاست کی وجہ سے مارا گیا خاص طور پر محمد حفیظ سے اس کی نہیں بنتی تھی۔ 


ایک دفعہ غالبا نیو زیلینڈ سے میچ تھا جب عبدلرزاق نمبر ۷ پر بیٹنگ کرنے آیا تھا۔ اس وقت پاکستان میچ تقریبا ہار چکا تھا لیکن اس نے آکے وہ دھواں دھار بیٹنگ کی کے پاکستان کو میچ جتوا دیا۔
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